they wanted to ask michelle obama, when barack obama gets off the stage, what do you say to him. >> i agree with you on that one. >> and former president bill clinton spoke to the convention and earned himself front page coverage in the new york times and probably a lot of other papers, with his speech. >> and some people even, i even saw some of the conservative blogs that that photo that you just showed, was of president clinton purposely trying to hide president obama's face. >> and i believe the gentleman next to you has that theory. >> you're right. and the guy is a showman. he knows what he's doing, and he could be in the theater. i mean, he's out there and doing 50 minutes with the his heels behind the curtain and comes out and hugs him and puts his face-- they do this in the movie, the big star gets the-- >> do you think he really tried to do that. >> absolutely. >> oh, really? >> we can agree that the coverage was a bit vaunted, but there's a media and the democrats this a very, very good and strong convention. >> but i do want to say this might have been here too long or wat